Sam, et al, I doubt that noting an appeal has been determined to have merit is especially useful. As Sam implies below, it is possible to have controversy over this point, and any controversy is likely to mean no annotation of "merit" will occur in many cases. Ignoring for the moment the potential for recursion (do we need to have supporters for the "merit" of an appeal after the fact?), it seems to me that it might be more useful to treat any appeal for which there was not an absolute consensus that "no merit" could be ascribed to the appeal, as an appeal with merit. -- Eric --> -----Original Message----- --> From: Sam Hartman [mailto:hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx] --> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:11 AM --> To: Michael Thomas --> Cc: John C Klensin; Ned Freed; ietf@xxxxxxxx; Eliot Lear --> Subject: Re: draft-kolkman-appeal-support --> --> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Thomas <mat@xxxxxxxxx> writes: --> --> Michael> John C Klensin wrote: --> >> (1) The "supporter" procedure/requirement should be triggered --> >> only is someone shows symptoms of being a vexatious --> appellant. --> >> People who are entering their first appeals don't trigger it. --> >> People whose last appeal was successful, even in part (that --> >> would need to be defined, of course, and that might not be --> >> easy) don't trigger it. The only folks who need to look for --> >> supporters are those who have appealed before and --> whose appeals --> >> have been rejected as without merit. --> >> --> >> --> --> Michael> Can an appeal be rejected with merit? --> --> Yes. I think Robert's recent appeal was rejected that way. I --> personally think that Jefsey's appeal against the LTRU registry doc --> set was a reasonable appeal although we declined to make --> any changes. --> I suspect many people may disagree with me and argue that --> this appeal --> was without merit. --> --> I think the SPF and Sender ID appeals clearly had merit. --> I'm not sure --> whether we rejected them though. --> --> --> _______________________________________________ --> Ietf mailing list --> Ietf@xxxxxxxx --> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf --> _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf