Fritz this is a much bigger issue than ANYONE thinks at this time and its based on the idea that the WIPO standard says that the IETF MUST be doing Industrial Design IP Models, and it only does Copyright which is a violation of the WIPO IP protection framework and the treaties ALL of the Member States have signed. Interesting eh? Todd Glassey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fritz F. Saad" <Fritz_Saad@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "todd glassey" <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Brian E Carpenter" <brc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <dassa@xxxxxxx> Cc: <nea@xxxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Nea] WG Review: Network Endpoint Assessment (nea) > Tood, > > > > Agreed, we should work to fix that. > > > > Fritz. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "todd glassey" <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Brian E Carpenter" <brc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <dassa@xxxxxxx> > Cc: <nea@xxxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Nea] WG Review: Network Endpoint Assessment (nea) > > > The IETF has an obligation to WIPO and to the DMCA and well - so far its > failed those pretty well I think. > > Todd Glassey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian E Carpenter" <brc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <dassa@xxxxxxx> > Cc: <nea@xxxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 2:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Nea] WG Review: Network Endpoint Assessment (nea) > > > > > > >>>This is what I meant when I said that the charter is unclear > > >>>and it must explicitly state that NEA is not meant as a > > >>>protection mechanism of any sort for the network. > > > > > > > > > I don't believe the Charter needs to delve into this at all. If some > people > > > see it as part of their protection mechanisms, so be it. > > > > > > Darryl (Dassa) Lynch > > > > The IETF has an obligation to "truth in advertising" so IMHO we should not > > claim protection that doesn't exist, even implicitly. > > > > Brian > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf