Ted not being a lawyer doesn't mean the IESG or the IETF gets to erect processes or methods which are contrary to the Public Policies of the United States since ISOC is a US Corporation, or likewise which violates any US Laws or Treaties that the US has with other Countries; Likewise this probably also pertains to state laws as well. Additional to US Law, it may also require compliance with the EU Data Integrity, Privacy, and Security Requirements since so many of our participants are from Europe and the Email-Hosting services for many of the IETF's WG's are here in the US. Not being a lawyer means a lawyer needs to do a legal analysis on the process and issue an opinion as to whether the contract's and their components make sense. Todd Glassey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore Tso" <tytso@xxxxxxx> To: "Dean Anderson" <dean@xxxxxxx> Cc: "todd glassey" <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <dcrocker@xxxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:51 PM Subject: Re: Crisis of Faith - was Re: Adjusting the Nomcom process > On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 07:25:00PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote: > > IETF volunteer staff are employees of the ISOC. That they aren't paid > > may make them gratuitous employees (see below). Gratuitous employees are > > still employees with just about the same obligations and duties of paid > > employees. I just happen to have the Restatement of the Law of Agency > > open: > > Dean, > > Neither of us are lawyers, and even if we were, the > application of the facts to law is not within the scope of the IETF > mailing list. I'm also confused what point you are trying to make, > but I suggest this particular thread be moved off of the IETF list, as > it is not in scope of the list charter. > > Regards, > > - Ted _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf