Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
I tuned out of this argument a while back, I am not concerned about the outcome of this particular event, the problem is the setting of the wrong precedent.
As Phill knows, and in fact has in common with me, I grew up professionally while providing services to experimental physicists up to Nobel prize level. And one of the things you acquire in that environment is a thick skin for dealing with strong-willed and highly intelligent people who don't always think twice before they speak or write. (Read 'Nobel Dreams' by Gary Taub for a good introduction to this topic.) So, frankly, I am pretty much immune to personal insults, ad hominem arguments, and libels - receiving all of which seems to be part of the IETF Chair's job description. That being said, Phill is completely correct - we should look beyond the rudeness in various messages for the objective content or the fallacy. However, that doesn't mean we should tolerate rudeness, or any other unprofessional behaviour. I recommend everybody to re-read RFC 3005 and RFC 3184, and also to consider whether the 'delete' key isn't the best one to use. Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf