Re: RFC Editor RFP Review Request

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Just out of curiosity - does anyone anticipate adding RSS feeds?

T.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ted Hardie" <hardie@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "John C Klensin" <john-ietf@xxxxxxx>; "Jeffrey Hutzelman"
<jhutz@xxxxxxx>; "Allison Mankin" <mankin@xxxxxxx>; "IETF Administrative
Director" <iad@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: <iaoc@xxxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: RFC Editor RFP Review Request


> At 3:28 PM -0400 7/26/06, John C Klensin wrote:
> >The other is that, to some readers, it appears to impose binding
> >requirements on how the RFC Editor deals with input from the
> >IESG, either directly (as in "if we recommend that this text be
> >inserted, you must insert it or not publish") or indirectly (as
> >in "if you don't follow our recommendations, we will see to it
> >that your funding is cut off").  For those of us who believe
> >that it is important to the Internet that the RFC Editor
> >function as an independent, cooperating, entity rather than as a
> >subsidiary of the IETF, that level of requirement is not
> >acceptable (that consideration is the source of this discussion
> >about aspects of the RFP and what should, or should not, be in
> >it).  While the IETF can attempt to establish links to
> >particular funding sources and apply leverage that way (which
> >some of us are trying to discourage), it is also beyond the
> >ability of the IETF to give itself the authority to impose such
> >requirements directly, any more than approval of a document as
> >an IETF Standard can force someone to conform to it.
>
> I don't agree with this understanding, but I appreciate your
> taking the time to clarify it.  The "imposition of binding requirements"
> you cite above is, from my way of looking at it, instead a description of
> how the two cooperating entities cooperate.  Putting descriptions of
> that kind into the RFP (or, rather, references to them) is useful for a
> potential respondent so that know what timelines and level of external,
> unpaid effort to expect from the IETF.  Other ways around this seem to
have
> their own headaches. For example, requiring  the publisher of the
independent
> stream to establish that a document  does not inappropriately usurp an
> unregistered standards-dependent  IANA  namespace or  reserved protocol
> bits would otherwise take the time and talents of the publisher's review
teams.
> That slows the stream or increases costs in a different way.
>
> regards,
> Ted Hardie
>
>
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