Re: The IETF 66 Attendees Alias

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Gray, Eric wrote:

Ray,

	May I make a suggestion for the next time around?

	How about if the registration page asks if you want
to be subscribed to this list?
Will do.

	As I understood it, this experiment was performed at
the request of people on the ietf discussion mailing list.
Nope. It was my attempt to provide *useful*, *important* info to attendees only, and a list to send a meeting survey sometime after the meeting. I did not implement it well.

That list is _not_ the appropriate place to talk about cookie shortages, mail and netowrk problems and issues with
the hotel, _either_.

	Since the registration page already has a number of
questions it ask about things we might or might not want to do. Why not add one more - and assume the default answer is "no"?

	I like the idea of having a separate list because it
allows me to decide quickly what I can safely ignore most
of the time.
--

Eric

--> -----Original Message-----
--> From: Ray Pelletier [mailto:rpelletier@xxxxxxxx] --> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:53 PM
--> To: ahawrylyshen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
--> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx
--> Subject: Re: The IETF 66 Attendees Alias
--> --> Alan, et al.
--> Message received.
--> I agree.
--> Changes being made.
--> Experiment provided valuable information.
--> Sorry for the pain.
--> Ray
--> IAD
--> --> --> Alan Hawrylyshen wrote: --> --> > Folks;
--> >
--> > I understand the utility and need for the administrative --> staff to have --> > a mailing alias for all registered delegates for the 66th --> IETF event. --> > However, in all the meetings I have attended - which is --> more than a --> > few, but less than most of you - I have never been --> deluged with such a
--> > volume of non-critical announcements in my main inbox.
--> >
--> > I hope that people will understand my strong desire and sympathize
--> > with my point of view when I request that all general --> IETF messages be
--> > posted uniquely to the IETF general list and that this address be
--> > reserved only for the critical or emergency announcements by the
--> > administrative staff. One step better would be for this --> address to be
--> > moderated so we no longer receive various complaints about water
--> > closets and wifi unless we seek them out on the IETF --> discussion lists.
--> > :-)
--> >
--> > Perhaps if there is a strong desire to have a 'hallway or --> watercooler --> > style' list for discussions pertaining uniquely to IETF --> 66 attendees,
--> > we could create a NEW mailing list that is OPT-IN called
--> > 66attendees-chat (or similar) at ietf.org. I'd even --> volunteer to set --> > one up (at a different domain of course) for the duration --> of IETF 66.
--> >
--> > My sincere apologies if I have misunderstood the purpose of the
--> > 66attendees address but my BlackBerry is going crazy with --> things that --> > I would not normally choose to have in my commercial, --> corporate email
--> > box.
--> >
--> > Respectfully,
--> >
--> > Alan Hawrylyshen
--> >
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