Ray, May I make a suggestion for the next time around? How about if the registration page asks if you want to be subscribed to this list? As I understood it, this experiment was performed at the request of people on the ietf discussion mailing list. That list is _not_ the appropriate place to talk about cookie shortages, mail and netowrk problems and issues with the hotel, _either_. Since the registration page already has a number of questions it ask about things we might or might not want to do. Why not add one more - and assume the default answer is "no"? I like the idea of having a separate list because it allows me to decide quickly what I can safely ignore most of the time. -- Eric --> -----Original Message----- --> From: Ray Pelletier [mailto:rpelletier@xxxxxxxx] --> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:53 PM --> To: ahawrylyshen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx --> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx --> Subject: Re: The IETF 66 Attendees Alias --> --> Alan, et al. --> Message received. --> I agree. --> Changes being made. --> Experiment provided valuable information. --> Sorry for the pain. --> Ray --> IAD --> --> --> Alan Hawrylyshen wrote: --> --> > Folks; --> > --> > I understand the utility and need for the administrative --> staff to have --> > a mailing alias for all registered delegates for the 66th --> IETF event. --> > However, in all the meetings I have attended - which is --> more than a --> > few, but less than most of you - I have never been --> deluged with such a --> > volume of non-critical announcements in my main inbox. --> > --> > I hope that people will understand my strong desire and sympathize --> > with my point of view when I request that all general --> IETF messages be --> > posted uniquely to the IETF general list and that this address be --> > reserved only for the critical or emergency announcements by the --> > administrative staff. One step better would be for this --> address to be --> > moderated so we no longer receive various complaints about water --> > closets and wifi unless we seek them out on the IETF --> discussion lists. --> > :-) --> > --> > Perhaps if there is a strong desire to have a 'hallway or --> watercooler --> > style' list for discussions pertaining uniquely to IETF --> 66 attendees, --> > we could create a NEW mailing list that is OPT-IN called --> > 66attendees-chat (or similar) at ietf.org. I'd even --> volunteer to set --> > one up (at a different domain of course) for the duration --> of IETF 66. --> > --> > My sincere apologies if I have misunderstood the purpose of the --> > 66attendees address but my BlackBerry is going crazy with --> things that --> > I would not normally choose to have in my commercial, --> corporate email --> > box. --> > --> > Respectfully, --> > --> > Alan Hawrylyshen --> > --> > _______________________________________________ --> > Ietf mailing list --> > Ietf@xxxxxxxx --> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf --> > --> --> _______________________________________________ --> Ietf mailing list --> Ietf@xxxxxxxx --> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf --> _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf