On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Jefsey Morfin wrote: > Two appeals have been responded today. A first reading shows an > impressive distance between the response and the matter of the appeal. There were only two outstanding appeals, the other one being from me. I can't see the response to JFC on the IESG site, but JFC has certainly understated the response I did see. "Impressive distance", indeed. While some parts of my June Appeal required some knowledge of DNS and Anycast to understand, the impropriety of the IESG response can be understood by just about anyone: The third issue they addressed was the failure of IESG members accused of wrongdoing to recuse themselves. The IESG held they do not have to recuse themselves. But it is well-established notion of professional ethics that one cannot sit in judgement of one's own actions. That is a blatant conflict of interest. Just about anyone can understand that. But apparently the IESG--as a whole--cannot understand this fundamental principle of ethics that requires recusal for conflict of interest. Even though the IESG as a whole was reminded of this through repeated requests for the officials (Kessens and Carpenter) to recuse themselves and halt repeated instances of improper interference. This ethical dysfunction discredits the IESG and its members as a competent body to make fair and ethical judgements. And this dysfunction discredits the IESG and members as an activity of the ISOC subject to the ISOC bylaws which require high standards of ethical behavior. The ethics of recusal are pretty straightforward in this instance. The issues are now more serious: Rather than merely two offending officials, there is now (at least) a majority of the IESG involved. This is now a very serious breach of public integrity. The other elements of the IESG decision are likewise not credible. This decision will also be appealed to the IAB. Other organizations will also have to be notified. I anticipate that honest, ethical members of the IESG will shortly resign or have already resigned to protect their reputations. I will give a few days for these notices to circulate. The remaining members will be named as offending participants in further complaints about this impropriety. Dean Anderson Av8 Internet, Inc -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000 _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf