> And everyone else has pointed out 'there is a problem here but I am not going to tell you what it is' is not a useful mode of discourse. Ah, but I *am* going to describe what the problems are. I'm just not going to describe what the problems are in a way that makes it as easy for people to dismiss those problems without refuting the technical arguments, or to focus on trivialities as a way to distract attention from substantive problems, as it is on mailing lists. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf