> I am still waiting to see a description of the defects you believe that you have identified in either forum. I have asked you to describe them here several times, you have refused. And I've already partially explained why I'm not doing things that way. But in addition to that - mailing lists discussions are much better at elicting knee-jerk reactions than encouraging thoughtful reflection, and this is something that needs thoughtful reflection. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf