On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:34:09 -0700 Tim Bray <tbray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > That's not quite sufficient, because most WGs aren't proceeding > > according to good engineering discipline (e.g. they're doing things > > in the wrong order, like trying to define the protocol before the > > problem space is understood) > > I'd generalize that. I have never seen *any* standards org do a good > job of inventing new technology. good point. anytime a significant number of people participating in a WG are lacking some important set of expertise or experience, there's going to be a lot of time spent educating everyone and adopting a common language. and in IETF, because we try to engineer things for the Internet as a whole, it's entirely normal for a significant plurality of WG participants to lack some fundamental kind of expertise that is required to make the protocol work well at Internet scale. so we have our work cut out for us. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf