Re: [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-carpenter-newtrk-questions-00.txt]

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My perception is that often in the IETF, protocol and process design works best that codifies and regularizes what is already being deployed.

The model that seems to be emerging is that we now have a lot of revisions of first-generation protocols, with the recent slew of LDAP announcements as one example. They are typically marked as 'rfc1234bis'; the I-D database currently lists around 85 of these drafts as being active. The act of revising an earlier RFC presumably indicates that there is sufficient community interest in the technology and that this is maintenance based on implementation experience rather than a new protocol development.

By default, declaring that '*bis' efforts are the second level of maturity unless there is an objection during last call would be sufficient to differentiate them from first, largely pre- implementation specs. (Naturally, RFCs that were perfect on first try could get petitioned into the second maturity level, with a simple method of collecting support from N independent parties, convincing and AD and based on a last call.)

I don't see why the grouping/labeling of RFCs can't proceed in parallel, but in a different group. This seems much more mechanical and tools-oriented and could probably be done more readily on an experimental basis. If whatever mechanism is chosen doesn't work out, we can phase it out or supplement it with something else. Such experimentation seems harder to do, without major confusion, for standards maturity levels.

On Jun 10, 2006, at 3:17 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

I invite the IETF community to read this draft and discuss the choices
it suggests, between now and the Montreal IETF.

    Brian


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