>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Ellermann <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Frank> IMHO Sam's proposal was meant to help Randy and Harald (as Frank> the list-moms of two affected lists), and the IESG with a Frank> certain "situation" (RfC 3934 not good enough, 3683 too Frank> disruptive) - as it turned out the IESG didn't need this Frank> and went with 3683. My proposal was meant to give the community some room to hash out the mailing list issue and to try and encourage more positive discussion. I've been swamped by day job issues and by some technical work within the IESG and have not gotten back to it. I will try and get the necessary consensus. I do strongly support my proposal and/or something more targeted at a BCP. I'm quite sure I'd resign rather than go through another non-trivial PR-action under the current procedures. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf