> > > > maybe this is because "protocol purity zealots" take a long term > > > > view and want to preserve the flexibility of the net "market" to > > > > continue to grow and support new applications, whereas the NAT > > > > vendors are just eating their seed corn. > > > > > > Your long term view is irrelevant if you are unable to meet > > > short term challenges. > > > > very true. but at the same time, it's not enough to meet short term > > challenges without providing a path to something that is > > sustainable in the long term. > > Which is why abdicating responsibility for meeting short term challenges is > so detrimental. I agree that it's detrimental, but I think something closer to the root problem is that IETF really has trouble addressing long- and short-term challenges at the same time. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf