> There are quite a few really good ideas for improvements to IETF productivity. > The problem with taking a particular suggestion and then adding others to it > will be that nothing gets considered in detail and nothing gets done. you say that like it's a bad thing. not to pick on you personally, but since you brought this up - it's hard to escape the impression that you'd rather have one half-baked idea adopted without much discussion, than to have serious discussion about what the real problems are and how to solve them. come to think of it, that resembles a lot of what passes for 'engineering' of IETF protocols. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf