>>>>> "JFC" == JFC (Jefsey) Morfin <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: JFC> I think we all are in agreement except on an idea Eudardo JFC> Mendez gave me. I will rephrase it as "if someting tastes as JFC> a WG, smells like a WG, its charter should be approved like JFC> for a WG". The non-WG list is only subject to the approbation JFC> of an AD. This opens the door to too many possible contention JFC> and COI suspicions. Logic and ethic calls for non-WG list JFC> receiving WG authority rights to be subject to WG creation JFC> cycle (obviously far faster). I think it should result from a JFC> simple change in the registration form and page display. It JFC> will say the status of the non-WG list approval and JFC> details. To be on the list an AD approval is enough. To get JFC> full WG priviledges the non-WG list will need to have the JFC> "IAB reviewed", "IESG approved", Area and ADs, etc. In principle this sounds fine. My confusion stems from the fact that it's actually more restrictions that are applied to IETF lists than privileges. Here is what an IETf list implies to me: * open participation * an appeals path * open archive * IETf IPR What privileges do you see? _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf