Agree, this is my view. What I think is *against* the regular IETF process is to have exceptions to anything being published as RFC. I see a lot of admin documents (and as such this can be considered somehow), which are RFCs, so as said there should be no difference. Regards, Jordi > De: "Gray, Eric" <Eric.Gray@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> > Fecha: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:16:34 -0500 > Para: 'Marshall Eubanks' <tme@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > CC: "ietf@xxxxxxxx" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Asunto: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria- > 04.txt > > Marshall, > > RFCs are living documents as well, though the process for > change is somewhat cumbersome. There are examples of RFCs that > have been updated many times in the last few years. > > -- > Eric > > --> -----Original Message----- > --> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] > --> On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks > --> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:27 PM > --> To: jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > --> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx > --> Subject: Re: I-D > --> ACTION:draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria-04.txt > --> > --> Speaking just for myself : > --> > --> I think that there is a strong benefit to having an agreed > --> upon set > --> of parameters > --> for new meeting locations. > --> > --> Having said that, this may not be appropriate for an RFC. Maybe it > --> should be a "living document" on a web page > --> or wiki, as is being done / considered for mailing list anti-SPAM > --> suggestions. Maybe a new class of > --> IETF document publication is needed. > --> > --> Regards > --> Marshall Eubanks > --> > --> On Jan 19, 2006, at 8:53 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > --> > --> > Hi Paul, > --> > > --> > I guess we can question ourselves the same way in many other > --> > documents ... > --> > > --> > The importance of having documents is part of the IETF "working > --> > mode". Is > --> > our way to say, here there is a consensus on this specific topic. > --> > > --> > I guess is not my final decision if it will become and > --> RFC or not, > --> > but it > --> > will not be fair not following the same path for this > --> document as > --> > for many > --> > others. > --> > > --> > That said, the original idea has been, since I was > --> pointed out for > --> > editing > --> > this document, to follow exactly the same process as with > --> many other > --> > documents, technical and administrative. > --> > > --> > Regards, > --> > Jordi > --> > > --> > > --> > > --> > > --> >> De: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@xxxxxxxx> > --> >> Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> > --> >> Fecha: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:43:42 -0800 > --> >> Para: Richard Shockey <richard@xxxxxxxxxx>, IETF list > --> <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > --> >> Asunto: Re: FW: I-D > --> >> ACTION:draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria-04.txt > --> >> > --> >> At 2:28 PM -0500 1/19/06, Richard Shockey wrote: > --> >>> It's a classic example of the current IETF fashion for > --> process over > --> >>> substance. > --> >> > --> >> Fully agree. 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