Hi Spencer, I don't expect we have changes on the way we select venues for a few years. Otherwise, the process for selecting them is not fair neither objective, because a venue need to be selected (logistic reasons) at least 18-24 months ahead. That means that lessons that we learn about what may be right or wrong in the document will take more than 2 years to get debugged. Right now we have already an experience of 20 years and we haven't changed too much lots of things. Moreover, we do changes in our documents, is not an issue if they are an RFC or not. And ... Being the document a guideline (may be BCP better than Informational), is IAD the one that will take decisions about the venue selection. I guess he will be smart enough to "correctly" apply the document to the process. I've no doubt on that. Regards, Jordi > De: Spencer Dawkins <spencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> > Fecha: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:01:32 -0600 > Para: IETF list <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Asunto: Re: FW: I-D > ACTION:draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria-04.txt > > From: "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@xxxxxxxx> >> At 2:28 PM -0500 1/19/06, Richard Shockey wrote: >>> It's a classic example of the current IETF fashion for process over >>> substance. >> >> Fully agree. What is the justification for this becoming an RFC? > > Well, backing up slightly ... > > How much of our process stuff (including existing BCPs) really needs to be > published as an RFC? > > Some does, I suppose, but "never changes" doesn't seem like the model we > should search for on venue selection (the venue selection model used for the > first 10 IETF meetings probably wouldn't have even booked us into > Minneapolis, much less Adelaide!). > > Having said this, I hope the IAOC does find this document useful input > (because if they don't, people have sure been wasting zeros and ones on THIS > list... > > Thanks, > > Spencer > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ********************************************** The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit Slides available at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf