>>>>> "Sandy" == Sandy Wills <sandy@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: Sandy> Brian Rosen wrote (about the format issue): >> It's probably true that we can push this problem off another >> year, but maybe not, and definitely not for very much longer. Sandy> I think that everyone here is aware of that, which is why Sandy> we keep coming back to it, and will continue to until the Sandy> agents of change win. I've only been following the IETF Sandy> for a couple of years now, but this discussion seems to Sandy> come closer to adopting a change every time I see it. And that's what we call building consensus. It how we conduct our business and while for things like this it is conservative, it does move. I do think that if the proponents pull together an experiment, we may find that within two years, we have a proposal that can get consensus. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf