Yaakov, Yes, that would be most of what I meant by "publicly available." Since we're trying to be very precise, I also include the notion of "readily available documentation" in the broader concept to "publicly available" where "readily" may be implied in your use of "open" - and essentially means that I can get a copy without signing another mortgage. -- Eric --> -----Original Message----- --> From: Yaakov Stein [mailto:yaakov_s@xxxxxxx] --> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:15 AM --> To: Gray, Eric --> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx --> Subject: RE: Alternative formats for IDs --> --> --> --> > Clarifying that "publicly known" means "well defined and publicly --> available", I would answer no... --> --> and if it is restricted to mean --> "open description so that you could write your own editor --> to read and --> write this format" ? --> --> _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf