Julian Reschke wrote: > If you're concerned with the limitations of ASCII, I'd advise > pushing for something that doesn't have these limitations, > yet is open, stable and really widely available. Such as HTML > 4 (strict). <dreaming> I love the new tools.ietf.org/html rfcmarkup magic. I also love the new unpaginated xml2rfc output. And of course the ordinary ASCII xml2rfc output. But obviously the process XML -> xml2rfc -> ASCII -> rfcmarkup -> HTML loses some of the details in the XML source. xml2rfc has its own HTML output, but this doesn't reflect the look and feel of a "real" RFC like rfcmarkup or what faqs.org does. With a new xml2rfc HTML output "compatible" with the rfcmarkup style there would be no losses. Where "compatible" means precisely the same format as in the ASCII output, but with links, #page-1 etc. anchors, and #section anchors, like rfcmarkup. In addition xml2rfc could offer further anchors and links, anything rfcmarkup can't "see" because it works with the plain ASCII text instead of the XML source. Maybe it could also offer <b>, <i>, and <b><i> while still creating monospaced <pre> output. Or rather content-based style tags (reserving <u> for links it will physically be bold, italics, or both. That works with even Lynx if the monitor isn't monochrome) Last but not least, if we'd "allow" that as the "normative" output in addition to text/plain, then "and now allow also UTF-8 for the author address in THIS text/html" is trivial. This should also work with XHTML 1.0 strict or XHTML basic. Matter of taste, I think that XML is simpler than SGML for tools trying to do something with it. </dreaming> OTOH the MS Word / PDF idea isn't a dream, it's a nightmare. Bye, Frank _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf