Re: Definition of SFTP ...

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On 12/8/05, Brian E Carpenter <brc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> >
> >
> > --On onsdag, desember 07, 2005 09:57:04 -0500 "Noël, Richard"
> > <noel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> There seems to be a conflict in the definition of SFTP; the IANA site
> >> indicates that it's Simple FTP while the IETF side indicates it's Secure
> >> FTP in conjunction with SSH ...
> >>
> >> http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
> >>
> >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-secsh-scp-sftp-ssh-uri-03.
> >> txt
> >>
> >> My understanding is that FTPS refers to Secure FTP.
> >>
> >> Could you help me to sort this out pls ...
> >
> >
> > I believe that "sftp" in port-numbers refers to port 115, with usage
> > described in RFC 913, which is declared Historic, and is most likely
> > unused in Real Life.
> >
> > sftp as defined in draft-ietf-secsh-scp-sftp-ssh-uri-03.txt defines an
> > URI scheme, and doesn't need a separate port number. It's not yet
> > approved (nor is draft-ietf-secsh-filexfer, which documents the protocol).
> >
> > So they're assignments in different name spaces - I agree it's
> > confusing, but it's not really a conflict.
> > There exist other "secure FTP" protocols, such as RFC 2228. But this
> > week, "sftp" is likely to be the SSH version.
> >
> > At least that's my understanding.
>
> Don't forget RFC 4217 "Securing FTP with TLS" which has also sometimes
> been called Secure FTP or even SFTP. That is quite widely used.
>
> A good acronym to not use, I think.
>
I don't see there being much confusion with Simple FTP.  Is the
TLS-FTP protocol in RFC 4217 likely to have its own URI since it is
just an extension to FTP?

>      Brian
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