>>>>> "Eliot" == Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxxxx> writes: Eliot> Obviously what you're suggesting isn't hard to do, and I Eliot> agree with you that in many cases use of port 22 would be Eliot> safe (and it would certainly be true for the VAST majority Eliot> of cases when connecting to network infrastructure). Eliot> However, once we decide to cover the other cases where we Eliot> are trying to give firewall administrators some leeway, I'm Eliot> not sure there's an added advantage to adding text along Eliot> the lines of "well, sometimes you can use port 22." For Eliot> one it makes the tool building HARDER if the other port Eliot> isn't LISTENED to as well, because your canned tools would Eliot> end up playing guessing games or requiring extra Eliot> configuration. And for our purposes I think I know of one Eliot> SSH implementation on a general computing device that Eliot> hardcodes the port to 22 and that implementation also Eliot> doesn't have means to support additional applications. I think the only reason you might want to make the change is so that: * People authorized to use the CLI in environments that have not gotten around to opening up the netconf port can use netconf * People who have tunnel setups to get to ssh can also get to netconf. However as I said, I'm not actually asking for the change just asking people to think about it. I think that it is even more critical to think about it for isms than for netconf simply because we're at an earlier stage with isms. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf