> Behalf Of Tim Bray > > Unfortunately, > > most web browsers fail to preserve page breaks (FF characters) when > > printing flat text files, which makes the resulting > documents hard to > > read. > > Turn this around; when printing HTML, the browser inserts > appropriate page breaks depending on the combination of font, > styling, and paper size that's in effect. This has the > effect that when you're arguing about some text, you have to > say "Look at 5.2.1.3, 2nd para" rather than "Look at page 13, > 2nd para". It's not clear that this is any better or worse. This is actually a rediscovery of something the medieval scribes discovered (and Tim almost certainly knows more on this than I do) Early codex manuscripts (books with pages) have foliation, not pagination. That is there is one number per sheet of paper rather than a separate number for each side. The original purpose of the marks was probably to assist the production of the books rather than allow citations but there is some use of citations. Once people started to use foliation for citations they started to see the disadvantages. Editions of the bible were particularly problematic once people started attempting to cross reference translations back to the original text. This was a particular problem with the old testament as some parts of the vulgate are actually translations of translations. The solution was to refer to scripture by chapter and verse. In HTML there are three separate options for creating citations. You can use style sheet pagination if you must but citations will be extremely fragile and can be broken by any edit to the text. You can also use section.subsection etc references which are more robust. The best method though is to label each section with a name. That allows citations to survive from one version of the document to another even if sections are added or deleted. On a point of information, most of the references I see in existing RFCs are to sections in any case. Phill _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf