Joel, > You can,(we've done it in the past) but since they're not actually > connected to the network when they're misbehaving it doesn't buy you much > until they fix their card, sleep their laptop, or reboot. > > Having done some testing with various Operating systems wireless > implmentations, I think we can say with some degree of confidence the > instigating hosts are generally windows 2000 machines, it could be time to > upgrade because the winxp ndis wireless drivers won't do this without some > coaxing. Or, I'd be happy to hand out knoppix cd's to anyone who wants > one. Do you have a sense if it is Win 2000 or if it is related to any specific wlan driver software? I'd think a basic list of cards / sw that often misbehave would be a good thing. That way, when we see a few adhoc devices in a meeting, the chairs could more specifically tell people running OS X / card Y to check their devices. John _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf