David, Two minor points of calibration. I've got (strong) opinions about some of this, but am going to try to write this note as neutrally as possible, just explaining where things stand. --On Friday, 30 September, 2005 14:34 -0700 Dave Singer <singer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > a) Design of the protocols and specifications; the IETF does > that, and I don't think anyone is thinking of taking that > away. So "The UN is taking on the IETF's job" is a > non-suggestion non-starter. Without getting into a discussion of how legitimate the claims are or how likely any decisions that might be made would mean anything, there are definitely forces within the WSIS process that believe that the IETF has outlived its usefulness, that the development of Internet protocols and technical standards has become too important to be left to a bunch of undisciplined volunteer engineers (that is pretty close to a quote) and needs to be turned over to a body in which decision-making rests with governments, etc. That body would presumably, but not necessarily, be the ITU which is part of the UN system. >... > I, for one, would be much happier in a world > where I know who has the authority to decide whether you > really are a company with that name -- with the answer being, > the authorities in the identified area. So, adding > non-geographic TLDs to my mind, is a mistake; I'd prefer > fewer of them. Deprecate ".com" in favor of ".co.us" (or > ".co.hm" or wherever else you want to be). And if Tuvalu > wants to continue to sell its name to first-come-first-served, > it may; I will soon learn to give ".tv" names the same (low) > level of trust I give ".com". > > If this were the agreement, the question of who operates the > root DNSs, routers, and the like would be almost as > uncontroversial as to who designs the protocols, in my opinion. Ultimately someone has to operate the keyboard that puts lines/ records into what ultimately becomes the root zone file. And someone has to supervise that person/ entity. When someone comes along and says (to use your example), "the nameservers for .hm should be X, Y, and Z", a determination has to be made as to whether that request is legitimate and authorized wrt either the current administration of .HM or the government responsible for Heard Island and the McDonald Islands. Note that statement about legitimacy and authority actually involves several choices which might need to be made. Now, for better or worse, that evaluation process, particularly for ccTLDs, has been the source of an immense amount of controversy. Those who get most excited about the status quo don't acknowledge that ICANN is a legitimate, international, multi-stakeholder, private-sector organization but, instead, refer to it simply as "the US Government Contractor". They point out that the US Government has asserted responsibility for, and control of, the root zone and that it clearly has the ability to overrule ICANN in determinations about root zone entries. They then proceed to say that the determinations as to the legitimacy of requests to change the records for a given ccTLD should not be in the hands of any one country, and say it in a way that makes it very clear that the statement implies "especially a country they don't like, don't trust, and which has a reputation for throwing its weight around". So that situation is, in practice, anything but uncontroversial. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf