C.M. - One of us has horribly missed the point of John's email (I'm not inferring it's you). Whichever one of us it is, the good news is I think we actually agree with each other =) The passage you quoted was indeed quoted by John but the way I read his post was that he was quoting it to show how this situation did not actually apply. That's why I asked him to provide relevant text from another rfc other than 3683 since if he was saying that wasn't relevant I wanted to know what was. I support my interpretation by quoting what John said immediately after the description: "This looks similar, but it does not require the one-year minimum, nor does it require a LastCall." Basically CM I agree with you wholeheartedly that the passage does apply and that this situation should be governed by 3683. nick > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Nick Staff wrote: > > John- > > > > Could you please specify the RFC that details the procedure > for when > > an AD requests that the IESG remove someone's posting > privileges from > > the IETF list (the RFC other 3683 of course). If there > isn't one then > > I'd have to ask that you refrain from making wildly > unsupported claims > > as they are disruptive to the process. > > > > Thanks, > > Nick > > Apparently you missed this in John's message (which you > quoted in its entirety, with garbled formatting): > > > RFC2418 allows a WG chair and the ADs to also take measures > if someone > > is disrupting WG progress (sect 3.2). > ] > ] As with face-to-face sessions occasionally one or more > individuals ] may engage in behavior on a mailing list which > disrupts the WG's ] progress. In these cases the Chair > should attempt to discourage the ] behavior by communication > directly with the offending individual ] rather than on the > open mailing list. If the behavior persists then ] the Chair > must involve the Area Director in the issue. As a last ] > resort and after explicit warnings, the Area Director, with > the ] approval of the IESG, may request that the mailing list > maintainer ] block the ability of the offending individual to > post to the mailing ] list. > > Look on the second paragraph on Page 13. > > //cmh > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf