On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, John C Klensin wrote: > Brian, > > This is a fine document. Perhaps appropriately, it doesn't say > much of anything. > > Is the actual trust agreement a secret, or does the IETF and > IASA intend to make it public before the IESG approves it? Will > there be an IETF Last Call that includes an opportunity to > review the document itself? The actual document is still in review and and the on-going discussions are privileged as they invole outside parties. I've just sent a summary of our framework to the list (you anticipated me by a few minutes). The document falls under the "contracts or equivalent instruments with outside organizations" and IPR related duties of the IASA as outlined in section 3 of BCP 101 and as I understand this section is not subject to IETF Last Call. We are making our best efforts to relay information as it becomes available. > I note that the IASA web pages don't mention this at all except > for a paragraph under "Draft Agreements". That says > > > Proposed IPR Trust > > The IAOC received on May 5th a new draft Trust Agreement from > > CNRI and is in the process of preparing a response. The IAOC > > expects that a revised Trust Agreement will be sent to CNRI in > > early June See the regular minutes posted here: http://koi.uoregon.edu/~iaoc/2.html > And is presumably a bit out of date, given comments in the > monthly report you circulated. And, referring to that report, > it also discusses new draft engagement agreements with Counsel > and other draft agreements which are not mentioned on the IASA > web site, much less available there. again, please see the minutes. > I am sure all of this is fine, but the agreement with the > community when IASA was formed was that all of these things > would be public to the extent possible. To the extent to which > few or none of them appear to be available, and the IASA/IAOC > does not seem to be able to keep its own web pages current and > the community informed that way, rather than via just overview > monthly reports, I think it should be a matter of concern to all > of us. we are working within the confines of "to the extent possible" and hope to be able to share the document soon. > john > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf