Re: Why have we gotten away from running code?

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Don't forget the organizations that adopt IETF specs. ISMA has a regular interop and conformance program for RTSP + RTP + the codecs used, both 'virtual' over the internet and face to face at most meetings. Likewise IMTC does testing of 3GPP SA4 multimedia specs, again using RTSP, RTP, codecs etc. I'm sure there are more.

Not that I am opposed to running code, sample code, or more IETF bake-offs, mind you. Just that the number of organizations filling the glass is more than it used to be.



At 15:12  -0400 10/08/05, C Wegrzyn wrote:
Perhaps they are more "regionalized". I know there are some "labs" like
at the UNH that hold them but the attendance isn't nearly as universal
as they once were.

As for statistics, no I don't have any. But I bet there aren't any more
-- in fact -- I would bet there are a lot less. I can't remember the
last SIP bake-off...

Chuck

Jari Arkko wrote:

 C Wegrzyn wrote:

 Hey, we not only had code that ran we also had "bake-offs" to make sure
 all the stuff worked together. The idea was to work out the nuances (the
 20% of the inaccuracies) and produce a damn good system. Today the idea
 is to slap something together - damn the interop - and get out the door
 for the "first mover advantage."  We also tend to not worry about the
 experience of the user - we expect them to understand our "Gold" is more
 like fool's gold than a well thought out and tested system.


 We still have bakeoffs. Or do you have some statistics that
 show we have now less bakeoffs per RFC than we used to,
 or that the bakeoffs are later than they used to be? ("We"
 here is the internet community, the IETF doesn't hold
 bakeoffs.)

 --Jari






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David Singer
Apple Computer/QuickTime

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