Scott, I dunno. I thought that some of the discussion has been about circulation of folks in leadership positions. Some feel its good, some feel its bad. Its not strictly term-limits as in goverment posts, as quite many former IAB & IESG members are extremely active in technical discussions, writing drafts, chairing bofs & working groups. In my experience, this is a really good thing. I'm not entirely convinced that its important for IESG members to stay in a position for a long time. I don't have a strong opinion, so I'm definately open for discussion on this. John L. > > From: Scott W Brim <sbrim@xxxxxxxxx> > Date: 2005/08/01 Mon AM 11:50:31 EEST > To: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: draft-klensin-nomcom-term-00.txt > > Discussion has been couched in terms of whether term limits are a good > thing. Really, what the discussion should be about is whether limits > on the NomCom are a good thing. > > It's one thing to give the NomCom guidelines, it's another to > constrict them. The NomCom is pivotal in IETF "governance" and is > also vulnerable to attacks. The NomCom should be defended strongly > against people who don't like the way things are going in IETF > management. > > Ideally, "term limits" should be ad hoc, per person, as needed. If > you don't like the fact that some AD has been around forever, tell the > NomCom. If you believe that competency in the job is just one > criterion, and that potential competency should be considered > important ... tell the NomCom. That's what they are there for. I'm > assuming you're already volunteering to be on it. > > If there is justification for the "firing" of a long-time AD, well, > the AD probably should feel embarrassed. Forcing *all* IESG or IAB > members out, even if doing so hurts the IETF and the Internet, to > avoid embarrassment of someone who shouldn't be there is just too > "politically correct". > > Those who have left IESG/IAB positions and taken up others have done > so because they are capable and want to contribute. The fact that > they can do so does not mean it is all right to force them out of > positions where they might be even better for the IETF. > > As for learning the trade, I don't know. IESG/IAB members could have > an "apprentice" program from their directorates etc., but as has been > said, there is nothing like actually being in it. Certainly, forcing > people out at inappropriate times is way off the path of wisdom. > > In summary, give guidelines and opinions to the NomCom but don't > restrict them unless they have too much power. > > swb > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
