--On Friday, 10 June, 2005 11:18 +0200 Brian E Carpenter <brc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > However, a BCP that states something like > > CRAM-MD5 is widely deployed for this purpose but due to > known weaknesses > [citations] is NOT RECOMMENDED. The RECOMMENDED > alternatives are ... > > might have a reasonable chance of gaining consensus. >... And that is exactly the document that I, and others in the email community, have been requesting for a few years now. However, to be completely precise: (1) "known weaknesses [citations]" is significantly different from "we don't like it" or "we assert it is bad" or even "we don't like things unless they contain several additional layers". The third of these might be a reasonable statement, but would require even more justification because... (2) CRAM-MD5 was designed around a particular market niche and, based on the number of implementations and how quickly they appeared, seems to have responded correctly to it. It may be appropriate at this point to conclude that market niche has outlived its usefulness, but if "The RECOMMENDED alternatives..." include only things that are significantly more complex or require significantly more infrastructure, there is some reason to believe that they will go nowhere fast, independent of any pronouncements the IETF chooses to make. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf