RE: Complaining about ADs to Nomcom (Re: Voting (again))

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I think that what is needed here is transparency, the problem is not the
outcome, it's the way the outcome is arrived at. 

I think that it is equally important to have the same level of
transparency when WG chairs are appointed. The WG should be told when a
vacancy is coming up and there should be an open call for volunteers.

I don't think that we would end up with different chairs but people
would feel a lot more involved than they do at present when a chair
suddenly gets parachuted in without the group even knowing that a
vacancy existed.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Danny McPherson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:31 PM
> To: ietf@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Complaining about ADs to Nomcom (Re: Voting (again))
> 
> 
> 
> On May 9, 2005, at 8:09 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to ask this year's Nomcom chair to see if this year's 
> > candidates can answer the question "would you have run if your name 
> > had been made public?"
> >
> >    Brian
> 
> Brian et al.,
> Here are some data points for folks to consider.  Thanks to 
> all those (a surprisingly large amount in two days!) that 
> replied to my query.
> 
> -------------------------
> Question asked to all 2004/05 IESG & IAB "willing nominees":
> 
> Would you have accepted nomination if the list of "willing 
> nominees" was made public:  YES or NO?
> 
> Response results:
> ---
> IESG Nominees:
> Total Responses: 83% of IESG Nominees
> YES: 79.4%
> NO: 20.6%
> ---
> IAB Nominees:
> Total Responses: 86.3% of IAB Nominees
> YES: 86.4%
> NO: 13.6%
> -------------------------
> 
> I didn't include any additional comments several folks 
> expressed, as many of them have already been discussed here.  
> I'm certain that if I posed slightly different variations of 
> this question (for example, "What if the list were padded 
> w/ringers?" or the like) responses would have been different.
> 
> One interesting (and perhaps rather intuitive) observation 
> that's not entirely obvious from the numbers above is that 
> several folks were OK with their names being listed as 
> "willing nominees" for only a subset of the positions which 
> they'd been nominated (e.g., OK with IAB nomination being 
> public, but not IETF chair or IESG nomination being public).
> 
> Given the time I've spent with the NomCom over the last year 
> as chair, (and my previous voting member term a couple years 
> ago), I can say for sure that making the lists public would 
> certainly be interesting and useful from the perspective of 
> collecting feedback on nominees from the community.  However, 
> I also understand why many folks are opposed to making the 
> list of "willing nominees" public.
> 
> -danny
> 
> 
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