>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: >>> I wasn't advocating for more ADs, but for more 'virtual' ADs, >>> i.e., to move the work of reviewing out of the ADs, and let >>> the ADs distrbute the reviews and collect and interpret the >>> results. >> I would agree on one point. Document reviewers seem to me >> would help. Most of the initial feedback (at least for my '1' >> case) was editorial and not technical. The technical feedback >> came later. Keith> I can imagine that virtual ADs might be very useful for Keith> reviewing early WG drafts (long before the WG thinks it is Keith> done), identifying potentially contentious issues and Keith> needed cross-area review, giving feedback to the authoring Keith> WGs about those, and informing the real ADs about the state Keith> of the document. Yes! And anyone who wants to do so can feel free to provide comments as early in the process as they like. It may well be that having organized virtual ADs would be useful. Meanwhile, if you want to know what you can do about quality and load of the IESG, the answer is simple. Review stuff. One technique I've found to be somewhat rewarding from before I was on the IESG is to pick a technology you are interested in. Find documents--especially documents from areas of the IETF not that familiar with that technology--that use the technology. Read those documents and provide review comments. Try to close with the WGs and get resolution to your comments. If you fail and believe that your issues still exist let the appropriate ADs know. It doesn't take any special designation to give you the power to review documents. Ultimately reviewers are those who write reviews. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf