> > It's as likely to boil down to "how do we get this WG to realize that > > there really is a serious technical problem with what they've created?" > > How about requiring to produce working code (and perhaps operational > experience) ? working code is valuable in some cases - especially where it appears that the protocol is not easily implemented. but working code won't provide an indication of how well the protocol works in large deployments in the wild. for that, analysis and/or modeling are the best tools we have. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf