Dave, > Brian, > > > Er, yes, I think it's known as collective responsibility in some circles. > > When it is used well, yes. > > When it is used to reflect the personal preferences of the AD -- no matter the > history of the working group -- then it is known as something else, and it > happens with some regularity. Perhaps the IETF traditional motto, "rough consensus and working code" should be revised to make it clear that the "rough consensus" goes only up to a certain point, but after that point the IETF operates solely by a decree from the IESG. Yakov. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf