> From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Because they only get to do it once and have no expectation of > repeating. One would think that would make them more likely to make changes, not less. >> The *whole point* of the NomComm is for it to have roughly the same >> views as the IETF as a whole, except in a smaller body. > The people whoe wrote the constitution certainly thought that there > would be a difference. Otherwise they would have done it the obvious > way. You clearly are not paying attention to the words "smaller body", with the manifold advantages that brings. > As I said, ignoring the 2,500 years of experience since that date. > Moreover the Athenian constitution was not exactly a success, they > murdered Socrates, got whacked in the Peleponesian war and finaly got > whacked by the Romans. > Given the fragmentary nature of classical accounts I find it > astonishing that you would think that you could understand the dynamics > of the organizations at all, let alone whether they were satisfactory. > Most of the accounts were written by the people whose interests were > served by those arrangements. The one dissenting voice, Plato provides > a critique so devastating that the same experiment is not tried again > for two millenia. Alas, much as pointing out the numerous errors above would interest me, it's a bit far afield for this list. (I'm particularly amused by your calling on Plato for support - he was profoundly anti-democratic.) Let me stay somewhat on topic by pointing out that the US Founding Fathers found the systems of the Greeks (and Romans) worthy of study and inspiration - so there's at least one group of relatively modern political geniuses who disagree with your valuation. Noel _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf