> From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
OK, I'll bite...
>> so in your mind, unless they kill off a lot of ADs, there's no
>> accountability?
> There is not much accountability if they are unlikely to replace more
> than one AD who wanted to be reappointed.
Why do you think a decent-sized, randomly-selected subset of the IETF (i.e.
the NomComm) are taking actions that are substantially more conservative (in
terms of keeping people) than the IETF as a whole would do? The *whole point*
of the NomComm is for it to have roughly the same views as the IETF as a
whole, except in a smaller body. So what makes you think that were the IETF
as a whole making the decisions, they'd be any different?
> Why do engineers believe that they are experts in innovating
> organizations? Is the result an improvement over traditional
> arrangements that have been incrementally improved over centuries?
I find this comment particularly hilarious, in view of the fact that an
important part of the inspiration for the whole NomComm process was the
Athenian Constitution of 508 BC; in particular, the mechanism for the
selection of the Boule (the Council of Five Hundred), which was the chief
executive organ of the state.
As you will perhaps recall, this constitution was in itself the result of
several hundred years of tinkering with democratic systems for use in small
societies with direct democracies (i.e. a very different environment from
today's mass representative democracies, with their millions of members).
Noel
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