Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: > The criteria applied for membership of NOMCON could be > applied to direct voting rights without any difficulty. Selling out vs, pseudo-random ? So far the worst idea I've understood on this list. > The model I want to move to would give the IESG and IAB > considerably greater influence in the development No, it would openly sell them to the paying industry. At the moment eyes wide shut I can pretend that I'm a "member". Without this delusion I'd refuse to work for free and look for greener pastures. > there is nobody who has the authority to represent the IETF > membership. Something wrong with Brian, IESG, or IAB ? If I don't like what they do I can simply say so. > there has to be a negotiation that takes place between the > parties whose buy in required for deployment. One of the more funny MARID experiences were the dozens of one-time-posters all declaring "yes, we will deploy Sender-ID". Surreal. Bye, Frank _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf