Nomcon can use any mechanism they like to select candidates, it makes no difference. Nomcon is not accountable to anyone by design, its decisions are not binding on anyone as a result. To have authority you have to accept accountability. > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Lakshminath Dondeti > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:00 PM > To: Joe Touch > Cc: Dave Crocker; ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Voting (again) > > > Nomcom does use voting. Please see RFC 3777. > > I am a member of the current Nomcom, and we tried consensus first and > then used voting to reach our decisions. (I even learnt how > Condorcet > voting works :-)). > > best, > Lakshminath > > Joe Touch wrote: > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > >Dave Crocker wrote: > > > > > >>>When the IETF pays for the 60% (80%, 100%, take your pick) > of an AD's > >>>salary, they can elect ADs. > >>> > >>> > >>Funding of candidates isn't the issue. > >> > >> > > > >I disagree; short of funding candidates or reducing the > workload (the > >latter, IMO, would be more appropriate), the list of willing > candidates > >is a significant part of the problem. > > > >... > > > > > >>The problem with voting is that the IETF does not have a membership > >>list, so > >>there is no real basis for running a "vote". The nomcom > process is intended as > >>a surrogate, randomly selecting motivated "representatives". > >> > >> > > > >That is a kind of a voting process. First, you have to have > attended a > >certain number of previous IETFs to be eligible for NomCom > >participation (which is not unlike the 'attend X meetings before you > >can vote' rule in the IEEE and other organizations). How the NomCom > >reaches consensus is not specified, but may involve votes. > > > >Joe > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) > >Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > >iD8DBQFCXVscE5f5cImnZrsRAgOLAKDIKgovQNCrnZF3BREc8fV2IbH2JACg/ti4 > >kiKmTf6DCHtGINs/JKMEeCs= > >=CFvB > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Ietf mailing list > >Ietf@xxxxxxxx > >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf