Hi. After a bit more reflection and looking at the new text in context, I think I'm actually pretty upset about "The IAOC attempts to reach all decisions unanimously. If the IAOC cannot achieve a unanimous decision, the IAOC decides by voting." In the process of simplifying this text, something seems to have gotten lost. It is usually a strong principle around the IETF and in our style of decision-making that we want people to to try really hard to see if a point of agreement can be found. The simplified text has lost the notion of consensus short of unanimity. So, "if you aren't unanimous, go take votes" is, IMO, the wrong formulation. A better one would be "if you can't reach consensus without voting, then by all means vote". Unfortunately, this isn't quite trivial editorial nit-picking. Let's assume that several choices are possible, and assume that one of them, selected by whomever frames a motion first, is proposed for adoption. As that current text is written, if that choice doesn't get unanimous approval, the IAOC goes off and takes a vote on it because that is what the BCP says to do. That isn't how we work around here, and I don't think it is the way we want the IAOC to work. Instead, I would hope that the IAOC would examine all of the other plausible options looking for consensus and resorting to voting only when it is clear that no consensus, around any option, is possible Proposed change: Get rid of "unanimous" (both times), replacing it with "consensus" and appropriate editorial smoothing. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf