Re: individual submission Last Call -- default yes/no.

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What John says below is good sense and IMHO should put the
discussion of this subject to bed (ignoring subthreads where
people have gone off on to other topics without changing
the subject field).

The phrase "Last Call" has built-in semantics. If something is
sufficiently straightforward that the overhead of creating a WG
is pointless, and if the last call message carries the sort of
text John suggests, I don't see an issue.

   Brian

John C Klensin wrote:
Hi.

In the hope of making part of this discussion concrete and
moving it a step forward, rather than (or in addition to)
debates about philosophy, let me make two suggestions:

(1) Last Calls for independent submission and similar
standards-track (and BCP) documents should include, explicitly,

	(i) An indication that it is not a WG submission.
	
	(ii) An explicit request for comments on whether the
	material is appropriate for IETF standardization
	(independent of the correctness/ appropriateness of its
	technical content), as well as
	
	(iii) The usual request for comment on technical content.

(2) Any explanations of why the document is relevant, what
problems it solves, what individuals or groups are and are not
supporting it, etc., that might help the community reach a
conclusion about the second point above should be either part of
the document itself or part of a supplemental informational
document that is included in the Last Call.


These suggestions are independent of discussions about defaults,
etc., and would, I think, be helpful for all non-WG submissions,
even though they will obviously be more important for some than
for others.   And, since the IESG decides what is Last Called
and what is not, and about the content of Last Call
announcements, I think it is something you can just do if you or
the community think it would be helpful.

    john


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