>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Constable <petercon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> From: Dave Crocker <dhc2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> It occurs to me that a >> Last Call for an independent submission has an Peter> added >> requirement to satisfy, namely that the community supports >> adoption of Peter> the work. >> We take a working group as a demonstration of community >> support. Peter> You say "the community", though surely a working group is Peter> only representative of "a community" or a portion of "the Peter> community". No. The entire community reviews the chartering of the working group. It's sort of complicated; community consensus does not appear to be required by 3418 in order to form a working group, although I would expect someone to appeal if a WG was formed and there was a rough consensus against the formation of that group. I do agree that individual submission last calls have greater latitude than WG last calls. I think that "Even though the WG supports this, the IETF does not and thus we will not publish," is a valid outcome of an IETF-wide last call. IN practice it's harder to get that result than "The IETF does not support this individual submission; we will not publish." Speaking only to general process and not to the issue at hand. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf