On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:04:54 -0500, John C Klensin wrote: > Peter, as soon as we get to "valid concerns that deserve > attention", we remove the proposed document, I believe, as a > candidate for BCP. That pretty much applies to all specifications. A Last Call that produces any sort of serious "concern" that folks feel should be taken seriously means that the document is not yet ready for approval. It occurs to me that a Last Call for an independent submission has an added requirement to satisfy, namely that the community supports adoption of the work. We take a working group as a demonstration of community support. (However we used to pressure for explicit statements during Last Call.) My feeling is that an independent submission MUST show significant support during Last Call. In other words, a working group document getting IETF Last Call has something of a Default Yes. And independent submission needs to be Default No. And, indeed, I haven't seen much support for the document under discussion. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking +1.408.246.8253 dcrocker a t ... WE'VE MOVED to: www.bbiw.net _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf