Bill Strahm <> supposedly scribbled:
> I don't know how airline pricing works in .au - but here in the
.us
> it seems that adding a short flight into a more regional airport
can
> more than double the cost of an airplane ticket.
>
> Also note that a town of 100,000 will seldom have conference space
> that can host a conference that attracts 1500 people - I know of
no
> such facility in Hillsboro (where I live) that is outside of
> Portland (more a suburb, than a regional center). I would be
> interested in knowing what somewhere like Spokaine, Boise, or
other
> smaller site might have.
I think that it might be possible in Spokane (grew up there but
haven't been back in years).
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Dassa
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:55 PM
> To: 'John C Klensin'; 'IETF Discussion'
> Subject: RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of John C Klensin Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:19
AM
>>> To: dassa@xxxxxxx; 'IETF Discussion'
>>> Subject: RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!
>>> Dassa,
>>>
>>> For better or worse, we've had a preference for locations close
to
>>> major airports with significant international connections.
>>> We haven't been consistent about it (note, e.g., San Diego),
but,
>>> unlike that other organization whose name starts with "I"
>>> (not IEEE, Glen), we have considered it a really bad thing if
most
>>> of the attendees have to spend two days getting to and/or from a
>>> meeting: turning a five-day meeting into an
>>> eight- or nine-day one is really hard on those who have other
>>> things to do besides going to meetings. I have no idea how
the
>>> boondocks
>>> of NSW would fall on that criterion, but it is what has kept us
>>> near or in fairly major cities.
>>>
>
> Hello John
>
> I was being a little tongue in cheek but the suggestion of
regional
> centers being used is one I pursue for a lot of groups. Living in
> the country in a smallish city, a lot of meetings occur in the
> capitals that I and others just don't get a chance to attend. I'm
> sure it would be the same in a lot of areas. I can understand the
> issues but the benefits all round may overcome them. For instance
> where I live is only an hour flight from Sydney, you ask, why
don't
> you fly there for meetings and I have to explain, being in a
regional
> area, the finances available for travel are limited. We
> tend to get paid less than equilivant workers in the capitals and
> companies out here are less likely to approve spending on
> non-essential travel.
> It is
> also a fact that connections out in regional areas are often less
> than optimal for most people so this has an impact for online
> participation.
> It
> is only recently I was able to get ADSL at home for instance and
> operated for years with a dialup that meant long hours for
> participation online and I missed a lot of broadcasts due to
> downloading constraints.
>
> My suggestion is the IETF considers moving some meetings out to
> regional centres within reasonable travel of the major ingress
> airports in an effort to promote awareness and participation.
Within
> the States and other countries, I'm sure there would be some
benefits
> in holding meetings at cities with populations of 30,000 - 100,000
or
> so rather than the capitals and other major cities with
populations
> into the millions.
>
> There are issues with such locations and they may be
insurmountable
> but I would like to see the idea considered. Given more people
> making lifestyle changes that involve moving away from major
cities,
> it may become more important in the future.
>
> Darryl (Dassa) Lynch
>
>
>
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Hope this helps,
~gwz
Why is it that most of the world's problems can't be solved by
simply
listening to John Coltrane? -- Henry Gabriel
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