Re:Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

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Hi Hidega,

I think you should not take so seriously this type of comments in the IETF
mail exploder. I could had a similar or even stronger reaction ;-)

I guess they come as a way to complain about the lack of transparency in the
way a venue is chosen, against the rules explained in the IETF web page to
host a meeting, the excessive number of meetings being hold in US (were
every time is worst and worst traveling to), etc., etc..

I've tried to get Madrid hosting it for more than 4 years, and we still
didn't succeed. I'm also working for a possible venue in Latin America,
hopefully will not take 4 years ;-), possibly in Mexico.

So what I can say is that I'm very happy that Paris is hosting this meeting
and hope that some time Madrid has a similar opportunity, later we can think
in Barcelona, Acapulco, and some other places which definitively should not
be in US.

Regards,
Jordi




> De: HIDEGA TIKU Lea RD-TCH-ISS <hidega.tiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx>
> Fecha: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:06:34 +0100
> Para: <gwz@xxxxxxxxx>, <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
> CC: <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <fred@xxxxxxxxx>, HIDEGA TIKU Lea RD-TCH-ISS
> <hidega.tiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Asunto: RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!
> 
> Dear Glen Zorn
> 
> 
> It is startling to see your remarks about, "Paris in August" as:
> 
> a. "deadly".  On your mail of 31/12/2004
> 
> b. "physical danger of meeting in Paris in August". On your mail of 31/12/2004
> 
> c. "the point is the question of why we seem to go out of our way to find
> unpleasant weather for our meetings".  On your mail of 02/01/2005
> 
> So, what do you suggest?...
> 
> To use the unfortunate weather calamity of August 2003 in France is a
> counterfeit reason to try and sabotage the work of many women and men working
> hard to make this meeting the most agreeable possible. This is equivalent to
> saying, not to go to New York because of 9/11 and not to ever go to Asia where
> the Tsunami had happened.
> 
> I don't understand your motivation for acting this way; but, I would like to
> discuss this issue with Cisco officials.
> 
> France Telecom, the host for the 63rd IETF August 2005 meeting, is paying for
> the rental of the venue and provides the network. Therefore, on behalf of
> France Telecom, I would like to insure the community that we are doing our
> best to make this meeting the most effective, efficient and safe (not
> "deadly") possible. We have reported the event to the security officials, and
> I will post the messages.
> 
> Please let me know your remarks.
> 
> Hidega  
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] De la part de Glen
> Zorn (gwz)
> Envoyé : vendredi 31 décembre 2004 07:06
> À : ietf@xxxxxxxx
> Objet : Excellent choice for summer meeting location!
> 
> Paris in August:
> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2003-09-25-france-heat_x.htm
> 
> ~gwz
> 
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