please do not read more into what I said than I said - I *only* meant what I said - nothing more (I have a hard time understanding how anyone could have misread what I said) I did not suggest any change to the non-reimbursment of IESG & IAB expanses - nor did I intend to I expect the job of being an IAOC member will take little time and almost no travel (after maybe a startup phase) - someting that someone who was willing to put non-day-job time in could do - thus I'd like the maximum flexability in being able to get the right people and if that means paying expenses for one or two face to face meetings a year (if the IAOC feels that it must meet face to face other thna at an IETF meeting) it seems like a small price to pay Scott _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf