Harald suggests 1) Make a separate section for the appeals stuff in 3.4 (for clarity), so that this becomes section 3.5 good thing to do 2) Change the section to read: If someone believes that the IAOC has made a decision that is clearly not in the IETF's best interest, he or she can ask the IETF leadership to investigate the matter, using the same procedure as is used for appeals of procedural issues in the IETF, starting with the IESG. In cases where appeals concern legally-binding actions of the IAOC (hiring, signed contracts, etc.), the bodies handling the appeal may advise the IAOC, but are not authorized to make or unmake any legally binding agreements on the part of IASA. In cases where no legally-binding actions are at stake, the bodies handling the appeal may nullify the IAOC decision and ask IAOC to restart its decision process. that would work for me - it does leave open a number of questions such as what non-disclosure materials that the IAOC may have seen while making the decision needs to be given to the IESG/IAB etc but, imo, it is better to not try to figure out all of those in this document Scott _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf