"Lynn St.Amour" <st.amour@xxxxxxxx> writes: > At 5:46 AM -0800 12/13/04, Eric Rescorla wrote: >> >>As I read this section, the intention is to ensure that donors >>who wish their funds to be used by IASA can do so easily, rather >>than being forced to donate them to ISOC in general. I don't >>think this is actually an instance in which our interests >>are all entirely aligned, > > If we look at this as a partnership, I don't understand why not. If > one looks at ISOC as only a funding mechanism for the IETF, this might > seem to be the case. Our interests should be more aligned than > simply financially. I agree with that, but that doesn't mean that our interests are entirely aligned. Indeed, partnerships are a situation in which it pays to take particular care to one's contracting arrangements because the respective point of alignment and disalignment are less obvious. >>since it would obviously be more >>convenient for ISOC to have full discretion over the dispersal >>of funds, though it would provide fewer guarantees to IASA >>in terms of revenue flow. >> >>Could you explain a little further what flexibility this language >>removes? > > over 80% of ISOC's org. members donate less than $10K annually and > managing these in a 'restricted accounting manner' requires more > effort and overhead. What fraction of the aggregate income comes from such donors? > And, language such as that in the BCP would require changes to our > membership programs (reducing our flexibility wrt future program > development) and consistent with other decisions to remove operational > detail from the BCP, it seems as though this language should be > removed as well. > > Finally, revamping membership/funding programs should not be done in a > piecemeal manner and with the model proposed we risk drawing fairly > arbitrary lines re designating support to the IETF vs. support to > other ISOC/IETF (technical) education and policy programs. Hmm... It's precisely those lines that I am concerned that we should draw. -Ekr _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf