1/ I am not alone in worrying about this section 2/ the text does not actiually say that decisions of the IAD can not be appealed (also as I understand other comments, some people would like to have that ability) 3/ the text does not catually say that only procedural issues can be appealed (it implies that but does not say that) 4/ there is no text saying what the limit of the investigation might be (for example - would the IAD have to turn over to the succession of appeal bodies confidential information about a particular contract awarding? I'd like to see an appeals section that says something like: If someone believes that the IAOC has violated the IAOC rules and procedures, he or she can ask the IETF leadership to investigate the matter, using the same procedure as is used for appeals of procedural issues in the IETF, starting with the IESG. Only IAOC processes can be appealed, actions and processes of the IAD cannot be appealed. Decisions themselves cannot be appealed. For example, the awarding of a contract to someone other than the lowest bidder can not be appealed. Appeals are limited to claims that published IAOC procedures have not been followed, for example that a pubished process that called for a 2 week public comment period only had a one week comment period in a particular case. If the IESG, IAB or the ISOC Board of Trustees find that procedures have been violated, they may advise the IAOC, but do not have authority to overturn or change a decision of the IAOC. The IAOC plays no role in appeals of WG Chair, IESG, or IAB decisions. I think that the added text makes clear what Harald said was the intent but I note that other commenters have said that the right of appeal was already too limited Scott _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf