Re: Adminrest: created IPR

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Hang on... are we not getting too detailed again, at the risk of over-constraining ourselves?

As has been mentioned on this thread -- we (IETF) may well want
to take advantage of non-open-source software, if it's the
most effective & efficient choice.  I'm thinking specifically
of contracting with a provider that has their own software tools.

Neither should we be constraining ourselves to choose from
providers with open source tools, nor should we be requiring
that *all* features we ask to add to those tools be available
as open source, or freely to the IETF, etc.

Taking the step back -- the principle was that the IETF should
retain the rights to, ability to access, and ability to move
the data it creates.    Period.

Sensible ways of achieving that include (but are not limited
to) working with open source tools and/or ensuring we retain ownership
of any software that touches that data.  Others include
using reasonably accessible off the shelf software (one Excel
program is much the same as the next...), or agreeing on
data interchange formats.  Let's not try to make the laundry list
in this document.

Leslie.

Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:


--On fredag, desember 03, 2004 10:19:23 +0100 Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


What about this text, (added to 2.2.6):

   "As a matter of principle the IAOC and IAD should ensure that any
   contracts for IASA clearly designate that any software, databases,
   and websites developed should be available to the IETF with no
   restriction by the contractor.  Software should be open source and
   data should be made available to the IETF in machine-readable
   format, also in cases where it may be inadvisable to make the data
   openly available."


this works for me (my only problem is stylistic - it's somewhat long for a principle, so may fit better in the "details" sections, if a place can be found for it).






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